09) "THE LOWER
DECK WAS COVERED WITH BODIES"
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Kevin Neish, one of the Canadian activists on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla
who were kidnapped by Israeli troops on May 31, was interviewed by Mark
Forsythe on CBC's radio show B.C. Almanac, on June 3. The following
excerpts are from a transcript by People's Voice editor Kimball Cariou.
CBC: What happened and when
did you realise that Israeli commandos were coming aboard the ship?
Kevin Neish: There's two
stairwells going between the two decks at
either end of the ship. I was in the forward stairwell. Actually I did
see the fighting. The Israelis were sticking guns in the first deck
doorway and firing into the hallway.
CBC: To your knowledge, how
many people were killed on board that vessel that you were on?
Neish: All the deaths happened
on our vessel [the Mavi Marmara - Ed.]
...I saw two dead for sure when they took over the bridge and the
captain announced, "stop fighting, the bridge has been taken over." The
lower deck lobby area, when I went down at the end, was covered with
bodies. They were all writhing, people were jumping on chests trying to
keep them alive. There was blood everywhere, bodies everywhere. I had
blood on my pants.
CBC: There are allegations
that IHH, the group behind putting this
flotilla together, is an extremist group that has ties to Hamas and
al-Qaeda.
Neish: I don't know anything
about that. What I saw was a ship full of
humanitarian workers, a ship full of aid, a ship full of women. There
was a whole deck of women. Old men. They had the patriarch, an 89 year
old man, he was arrested and beat up. What I know is that I was
threatened by the Israelis a number of times. When I was chained up
they wouldn't let me go to the bathroom for 15 hours. You had to beg to
go to the bathroom. It was quite disgusting and filthy.
CBC: This is when you were in
custody with the Israelis?
Neish: They had me tied up
with plastic handcuffs for about 25 hours on
the ship. I was one of the last ones to be released off the ship.
That's why the embassy thought I was dead... Then I was jailed in
Beersheba for a couple of days as well.
CBC: Do you have any worries
at all that you were co-opted by a group that had ulterior motives?
Neish: No. (Laughs). No
question in my mind. If they wanted to defend
that ship they would have brought weapons on board. Immediately before
the Israelis attacked, the crew and the aid workers were running around
the ship finding things to defend themselves with. They didn't bring
anything with them. When I came on board they searched my bag. I had a
pocket knife in my bag. They threw it away because they wouldn't allow
any weapons on board... When it was obvious the Israelis were going to
attack, I could hear grinders going. They were grinding the chains off
the fencing around the ship so they had something to use. If they were
planning on attacking the Israelis with weapons, they would have
brought weapons with them...
I can tell you that I was treated very poorly
by the Israelis.
Like I say, I was 15 hours without being allowed to go to the washroom,
and 24 hours without really being allowed to stand. I had guns put in
my face, I had a revolver put right into my face. I had people aim guns
at me steady. Any time I tried to rise up and stretch, I had a gun on
me. I had a dog snapping at me. You try and sit in one spot for 25
hours, with your hands trussed in front of you, and if you ask for the
bathroom too many times, a soldier would walk over, take the tie wrap
and yank on it and cinch it up so tight, the back of my right hand is
still numb.
The whole night in the prison, both nights,
they'd walk around
every two hours and yell in the doors, "who's in here, what country?"
... This kept us awake all night. That was after two nights of no
sleep, with the fighting and everything else. It was calculated, it was
cruel, and it was demeaning.
....As far as being co-opted by anybody, I'm
not an idiot. I've
done this all my life. I've been in Guatemala, El Salvador, Colombia,
and Palestine earlier. Nobody co-opts me. If anybody says I'm co-opted,
come and tell me to my face. I wasn't born yesterday.